Crime Classics
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My pleasure Harlow
Once again today we have both Network & AFRTS versions for each episode
Crime Classics 1953-12-09 24 The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln
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Crime Classics 1953-12-09 The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln (AFRTS)
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No shortage of background materials for this one
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Crime Classics 1953-12-16 25 John And Judith, Their Crime And Why They Didn't Get To Enjoy It (NET)
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Crime Classics 1953-12-16 25 John And Judith, Their Crime And Why They Didn't Get To Enjoy It (AFRTS)
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Details provided by Olde English Books
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Once again today we have both Network & AFRTS versions for each episode
Crime Classics 1953-12-09 24 The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln
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Crime Classics 1953-12-09 The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln (AFRTS)
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No shortage of background materials for this one
****NOTE - LINK CORRECTED FOR THE NETWORK VERSION
Crime Classics 1953-12-16 25 John And Judith, Their Crime And Why They Didn't Get To Enjoy It (NET)
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Crime Classics 1953-12-16 25 John And Judith, Their Crime And Why They Didn't Get To Enjoy It (AFRTS)
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Details provided by Olde English Books
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Crime Classics 1953-12-16 25 John And Judith, Their Crime And Why They Didn't Get To Enjoy It (NET)
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Geezer, this one is also an AFRS version.
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BobbyP wrote:Geezer wrote:
Crime Classics 1953-12-16 25 John And Judith, Their Crime And Why They Didn't Get To Enjoy It (NET)
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Geezer, this one is also an AFRS version.
Thanks Bobby, I pasted in the wrong link. It has been corrected
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NET & AFRTS for this first story
Crime Classics 1953-12-30 26 Coyle And Richardson, Why They Hung In A Spanking Breeze (NET)
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Crime Classics 1953-12-30 26 Coyle And Richardson, Why They Hung In A Spanking Breeze (AFRTS)
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Just Network for this one
Crime Classics 1954-01-06 27 The Younger Brothers, Why Some Of Them Grew No Older (NET)
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Crime Classics 1953-12-30 26 Coyle And Richardson, Why They Hung In A Spanking Breeze (NET)
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Just Network for this one
Crime Classics 1954-01-06 27 The Younger Brothers, Why Some Of Them Grew No Older (NET)
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Crime Classics 1954-01-13 28 How Supan Got The Hook Outside Bombay (NET)
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Unable to locate any account of this murder. If anyone out there locates any details, please post link or screen print
AFRTS & Network versions
Crime Classics 1954-01-20 29 Madeline Smith Maid or Murderess (AFRTS)
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Crime Classics 1954-01-20 29 Madeline Smith, Maid Or Murderess (NET)
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Crime Classics 1954-01-27 30 The Boorn Brothers And The Hangman, A Study In Nip And Tuck
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Quite a few online accounts are available. This account indicates that the radio story of acquittal made the actual process seem much smoother than it really was
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Unable to locate any account of this murder. If anyone out there locates any details, please post link or screen print
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Crime Classics 1954-01-20 29 Madeline Smith Maid or Murderess (AFRTS)
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Crime Classics 1954-01-20 29 Madeline Smith, Maid Or Murderess (NET)
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Crime Classics 1954-01-27 30 The Boorn Brothers And The Hangman, A Study In Nip And Tuck
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Quite a few online accounts are available. This account indicates that the radio story of acquittal made the actual process seem much smoother than it really was
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Crime Classics 1954-02-03 31 The Incredible History Of John Shepard
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Wikipedia offers this account. Note that he seems to have been popularly called Jack. There is some speculation that he is the origin of the British expression “Jack the Lad” (a brash or roguish person) but there doesn’t appear to be any hard evidence to support this.
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One of the sources for the Wikipedia article is the following. My incredibly short attention span makes reading difficult enough, but the language of this piece makes it an even tougher read. What I could follow is fascinating not only for its story but its use of language. Probably common usage of the time with (possibly) some slang tossed in. Maybe more 'street' slang than vernacular, I could not say for certain.
Title: The History of the Remarkable Life of John Sheppard --- Author: Daniel Defoe
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Wikipedia offers this account. Note that he seems to have been popularly called Jack. There is some speculation that he is the origin of the British expression “Jack the Lad” (a brash or roguish person) but there doesn’t appear to be any hard evidence to support this.
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One of the sources for the Wikipedia article is the following. My incredibly short attention span makes reading difficult enough, but the language of this piece makes it an even tougher read. What I could follow is fascinating not only for its story but its use of language. Probably common usage of the time with (possibly) some slang tossed in. Maybe more 'street' slang than vernacular, I could not say for certain.
Title: The History of the Remarkable Life of John Sheppard --- Author: Daniel Defoe
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Crime Classics 1954-02-10 32 Twenty-Three Knives Against Caesar
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No need to add additional accounts for this one
Again we have AFRTS and Network versions
Crime Classics 1954-02-17 33 Jean Baptiste Troppmann, Killer Of Many (AFRTS)
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Crime Classics 1954-02-17 33 Jean Baptiste Troppmann, Killer Of Many (NET)
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Murderpedia has the only detailed account I could find. There are numerous discrepancies between it and the Crime Classics story
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No need to add additional accounts for this one
Again we have AFRTS and Network versions
Crime Classics 1954-02-17 33 Jean Baptiste Troppmann, Killer Of Many (AFRTS)
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Crime Classics 1954-02-17 33 Jean Baptiste Troppmann, Killer Of Many (NET)
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Murderpedia has the only detailed account I could find. There are numerous discrepancies between it and the Crime Classics story
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Just when I was getting confident about finding supplemental accounts for these stories
Crime Classics 1954-02-24 34 The Good Ship Jane, Why She Became Flotsam
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I could find no supporting accounts
Only the AFRTS version for this. Anyone have a Network version?
Crime Classics 1954-03-03 35 Roger Nems, How He, Though Dead, Won The Game AFRTS 32 UPGRADE
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I could find no supporting accounts
I'll try to add a couple more episodes later today
Crime Classics 1954-02-24 34 The Good Ship Jane, Why She Became Flotsam
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I could find no supporting accounts
Only the AFRTS version for this. Anyone have a Network version?
Crime Classics 1954-03-03 35 Roger Nems, How He, Though Dead, Won The Game AFRTS 32 UPGRADE
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I could find no supporting accounts
I'll try to add a couple more episodes later today
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Thank you Geezer for all your efforts.
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Back at you, Tom
Crime Classics 1954-03-10 36 New Hampshire, The Tiger and Brad Ferguson; What Happened Then AFRTS
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This is all I could find on Mr Bradbury Ferguson Unless you’re a lawyer into legal procedure history, I don’t recommend it.
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Crime Classics 1954-03-17 37 Old Sixtoes, How He Stopped Construction On The B. B. C. And I
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Another failure Nothing found
Crime Classics 1954-03-10 36 New Hampshire, The Tiger and Brad Ferguson; What Happened Then AFRTS
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This is all I could find on Mr Bradbury Ferguson Unless you’re a lawyer into legal procedure history, I don’t recommend it.
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Crime Classics 1954-03-17 37 Old Sixtoes, How He Stopped Construction On The B. B. C. And I
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Another failure Nothing found
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Geezer wrote:Just when I was getting confident about finding supplemental accounts for these stories
Crime Classics 1954-02-24 34 The Good Ship Jane, Why She Became Flotsam
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I could find no supporting accounts
Here's a decent summary for you, Geezer... thanks for all the work on this so far, by the way.
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You are most welcome my friend and thanks for the link.
Crime Classics 1954-03-31 39 Robby-Boy Balfour; How He Wrecked A Big Prison's Reputation
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Robert Balfour, 5th Lord Balfour of Burleigh
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According to the radio version, Robby’s sister had a brief but interesting story as well but I could find no account of it
Crime Classics 1954-04-07 40 The General's Daughter, The Czar's Lieutenant And The Linen Closet
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No other account located
Crime Classics 1954-03-31 39 Robby-Boy Balfour; How He Wrecked A Big Prison's Reputation
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Robert Balfour, 5th Lord Balfour of Burleigh
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According to the radio version, Robby’s sister had a brief but interesting story as well but I could find no account of it
Crime Classics 1954-04-07 40 The General's Daughter, The Czar's Lieutenant And The Linen Closet
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No other account located
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Crime Classics 1954-04-14 41 James Evans, Fireman; How He Extinguished A Human Torch
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Nice account of the trial found in Google Books
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Nice account of the trial found in Google Books
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This needs the Network version. The AFRTS version has OK sound but an upgrade wouldn’t hurt
Crime Classics 1954-04-21 42 Cesare Borgia - His Most Difficult Murder Cesare Borgia - His Most Difficult Murder (AFRTS)
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Wikipedia’s overview of Cesare Borgia
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An account of the murder from “The Life of Cesare Borgia” by Raphael Sabatini
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Found this as "Magee" but could easily be "McGee"
Crime Classics 1954-04-28 43 Widow Magee And the Three Gypsies; A Vermont Fandango
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No detail found
This needs the Network version. Another one where the AFRTS version has OK sound but an upgrade wouldn’t hurt
Crime Classics 1954-05-05 (44) Bunny Baumler, His Close Brush with Fame (AFRS)
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No detail found
Crime Classics 1954-04-21 42 Cesare Borgia - His Most Difficult Murder Cesare Borgia - His Most Difficult Murder (AFRTS)
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Wikipedia’s overview of Cesare Borgia
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An account of the murder from “The Life of Cesare Borgia” by Raphael Sabatini
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Found this as "Magee" but could easily be "McGee"
Crime Classics 1954-04-28 43 Widow Magee And the Three Gypsies; A Vermont Fandango
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No detail found
This needs the Network version. Another one where the AFRTS version has OK sound but an upgrade wouldn’t hurt
Crime Classics 1954-05-05 (44) Bunny Baumler, His Close Brush with Fame (AFRS)
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No detail found
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Geezer wrote:This True Crime series is something Greybelt and I put together a couple years ago and never got around to posting. Most are encoded at 128 KBPS. We have 15 stories for which both the AFRTS and Network version of the shows are available.
Besides all of the new background information being added isn't this the same upgraded set that was just posted to archive.org a little over a month ago? So far I haven't noticed any changes. Just curious.
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lasombra wrote:Geezer wrote:This True Crime series is something Greybelt and I put together a couple years ago and never got around to posting. Most are encoded at 128 KBPS. We have 15 stories for which both the AFRTS and Network version of the shows are available.
Besides all of the new background information being added isn't this the same upgraded set that was just posted to archive.org a little over a month ago? So far I haven't noticed any changes. Just curious.
We did this back at the end of 2016, early 2017. I wasn't aware of the OTRR 2019 Upgrade set. It does look to be mostly if not entirely the same source material. Wish I'd known about it before I started posting
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It's fine geezer, some of us don't check archive.org often enough.
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It appears that it not only looks like my set, it IS my set. They even have an edited version of the log I created when I reviewed and evaluated the programs. Joe must have shared with someone from OTRR and forgot to mention it me. Not a conflict as most of the shows were his to share to begin with.
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Geezer, I only knew about it because I'm following the thread by ozradio Old Time Radio Researchers 2019 Releases and now the 2020 Releases threads. He just recently announced the Clyde Beatty and the Rocky Fortune releases.
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Here's an upgrade for your network copy at 32 of 1953-07-27:
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I think at least some of their Rocky Fortune might be based on a set Joe & I collaborated on. Many episode titles MIGHT have been changed due to some of Stewart Wright's research
As we're near the end of Crime Classics anyway, I'll carry on.
Only the AFRTS version seems to be circulating. Could use an upgrade too.
Crime Classics 1954-05-12 (45) Mr Clarke's Skeleton In Mr Aram's Closet; The Noise It Made (AFRTS)
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Both AFRTS & Net versions for the Marquise
Crime Classics 1954-05-26 (46) The Lethal Habit of The Marquise De Brinvilliers AFRTS#29
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Crime Classics 1954-05-26 46 The Lethal Habit Of The Marquise De Brinvilliers (NET)
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From other accounts, it look like Marie’s death was much more “uncomfortable” than mere starvation.
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As we're near the end of Crime Classics anyway, I'll carry on.
Only the AFRTS version seems to be circulating. Could use an upgrade too.
Crime Classics 1954-05-12 (45) Mr Clarke's Skeleton In Mr Aram's Closet; The Noise It Made (AFRTS)
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Both AFRTS & Net versions for the Marquise
Crime Classics 1954-05-26 (46) The Lethal Habit of The Marquise De Brinvilliers AFRTS#29
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Crime Classics 1954-05-26 46 The Lethal Habit Of The Marquise De Brinvilliers (NET)
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From other accounts, it look like Marie’s death was much more “uncomfortable” than mere starvation.
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Time to finish this up
Crime Classics 1954-06-02 Mr Jonathon Jewett; How Most Peculiarly He Cheated
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The story of Mr Jewett and cellmate George Bowen’s subsequent trial sets a legal precedent
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Crime Classics 1954-06-09 The Assassination Of Leon Trotsky
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Overview
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And the story of Ramon Mercader
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Crime Classics 1954-06-16 The Death Of A Baltimore Birdie And Friend
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A more current murder, names and place changed to protect the innocent. Hard to backtrack since I’m not sure which, if any, such information is correct
Crime Classics 1954-06-23 Ali Pasha - A Turkish Delight (AFRTS)
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Detail account of Ali Pasha’s life
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Here’s the last of Crime Classics - NET & AFRTS versions
Crime Classics 1954-06-30 (51) Good Evening, My Name Is Jack the Ripper (NET)
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Crime Classics 1954-06-30 (51) Good Evening, My Name Is Jack the Ripper AFRTS#31
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With so much fact and speculation readily available, no reason to try to single out links.
Crime Classics 1954-06-02 Mr Jonathon Jewett; How Most Peculiarly He Cheated
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The story of Mr Jewett and cellmate George Bowen’s subsequent trial sets a legal precedent
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Crime Classics 1954-06-09 The Assassination Of Leon Trotsky
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Overview
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And the story of Ramon Mercader
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Crime Classics 1954-06-16 The Death Of A Baltimore Birdie And Friend
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A more current murder, names and place changed to protect the innocent. Hard to backtrack since I’m not sure which, if any, such information is correct
Crime Classics 1954-06-23 Ali Pasha - A Turkish Delight (AFRTS)
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Detail account of Ali Pasha’s life
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Here’s the last of Crime Classics - NET & AFRTS versions
Crime Classics 1954-06-30 (51) Good Evening, My Name Is Jack the Ripper (NET)
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Crime Classics 1954-06-30 (51) Good Evening, My Name Is Jack the Ripper AFRTS#31
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With so much fact and speculation readily available, no reason to try to single out links.
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Thank you for all your work on this series Geezer.
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Thanks very much for this series. It's a show I knew of but had not listened to before.
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